The Baptist Mom Show – Episode Two

Thu, Apr 25, 2013

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In episode 2 of The Baptist Mom Show I talk about my Spiritual Growth during my first six months as a new Christian.  I share what the one key thing is that I think made all the difference in my serving God today.

Below are some of the key highlights of the podcast!

  1. Told friends in front of school I got saved.. don’t be a Bible Thumper…
  2. Told Alex after school I got saved …
  3. Began to attend faithfully
  4. First Bible
  5. Discipleship on Tuesdays
  6. Matthew 28 – Go and tell (and I did!)
  7. John 3:16 – where is that?
  8. 1 John vs John 15 …. Where is that?
  9. Bible Studies on Campus – Don’t regret the opportunity you have … you will never have a greater opportunity to have access to such large numbers of people to witness to. Don’t waste the opportunity. Don’t graduate high school and wish you would have done more.
  10. The book of Acts – The early Apostles simply shared what God had done in their life.  They did not have a completed Bible to study doctrine… they simply shared what God had done for them and that God was love.
  11. Daily witnessing – My dear friend Hannah and I … she would play the guitar and we met before school and during lunch. We would then take tracts and walk up to groups of kids during the lunch hour and try to witness to them.  I frequently had large groups of 10-30 kids usually with one person… usually a JW, Mormon, or Pentecostal that believed you could lose your salvation, arguing with me.

 

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Transcription

Hi. Nicole Munoz here, and welcome to Episode 2 of the Baptist Mom Show. I am so glad that you are here joining us today. And if you have already listened to Episode 1, great. You are all caught up to date. If you haven’t listened to Episode 1, then you probably want to go back and listen to that episode first. On Episode 1, I talk about who our family is, what we’re doing, how we got started, and I also go into detail about how God worked in my life to bring me from a place of depression and emptiness to a place of joy, to a place of satisfaction, to a place of peace. Today, we’re going to pick up the story in Episode number 2. We’re going to pick up where we left off on Episode number 1. So if you haven’t watched Episode 1, you might want to go listen to Episode 1. You might want to go back and do that. If you have, great! Let’s get started.

So the story picks up the day after December 13th. So December 14th, 1990 is when the story picks up. This was the day after that I had gotten saved. So on December 13th, 1990, as I was alone in my room, I called out to God, and I said, “God, I don’t know even if you’re real. I’m not even sure that you actually exist, but if you are, I give my life to you. I pray that you’ll save me. I pray that you’ll come into my heart.” I remember that after saying those words, I had a peace and a joy that I had never felt before in my entire life. Later on, as I mentioned in Episode 1, that’s when the Holy Spirit came into my life and began to fill me with that fruit of the spirit, which is joy.

So what happened next? So I got saved, and then the next day… Of course, I was in high school. So the next day when I went to school, just like normal, my dad would drop me off at the businesses right across the street from the school where I would hang out with my friends for about 30 minutes before we would actually go into classes. As I was hanging out there with my friends, I remember that these friends aren’t the friends of the nice athletes or the people that are really into academics. These were pretty much the druggie crowd and the bad kids in school.

So we were hanging out there in front of the school before actually going onto campus. I remember, these were just my friends, so I just said to them, “You know what? Yeah. Last night, I asked Jesus to save me.” I remember my friends just kind of looking at me like, “What? What are you talking about? Jesus just saved you?” But one of the things that my friends did is they prided themselves on not judging other people because they would always say, “We’re going to dress rebellious because we don’t want anyone to tell us what to do, and you shouldn’t judge us by how we dress.” So they were big on not judging other people and not be judged.

So when I said that to them, it was like, “Oh. Well, okay. If that’s what makes you happy, that’s great.” They really didn’t know how to respond to that, but I was just sharing what I did the night before. I remember one of them said to me, “Okay. Well, that’s cool. But just don’t become a Bible thumper.” I was like, “Okay. Sure. I will make sure I’m not a Bible thumper.” But inside, I was thinking, “What’s a Bible thumper? I have no idea. Is that some type of a religion?” Later on, he was trying to just say… I figured out he was just trying to say, “Don’t become too fanatical about it,” which I guess I shouldn’t have made that promise because it was something I definitely could not keep.

Well, I went to school that day. Then after school, if you remember from Episode 1, Pastor Alex, who was the youth pastor of Calvary Chapel, he was actually on the campus that day. So it was after school, and I saw Alex. I went up to him, and he started to talk to me and saying, “Great that you’ve been coming to church. We’re going to have this activity.” I was talking to him, and I said, “Yes. And by the way, last night, I prayed, and I asked Jesus to save me.” Oh, my goodness. Alex got so excited. He was like, “Oh, my goodness. That’s so amazing. That’s awesome.” I didn’t understand why Alex was just so excited, but he got very, very excited.

That just made an impression on me that I just told him the same news I had told my friends, and Alex was rejoicing over that news. Well Alex, him and his wife, Christie, they lived very close to Calvary Chapel Vista. They lived about, I think, almost across the street from the campus of the church. But Alex and his wife, Christie, they would drive all the way over to my house, which is probably about a 10 minute drive. They began to pick me up and take me to church services every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night. Because of course, I was 15, didn’t have a car yet.

I remember a couple times, they invited me to their home, and they actually presented me with my very first Bible. They bought me a very nice, beautiful Bible, not those cheap $5 ones. It was one of those nice, expensive Bibles that you buy for someone. You usually buy for yourself, or you buy for someone that’s maybe a family member or something. They bought me my very first Bible.    Then Christie, what she used to do… This is Alex’s wife, Christie. She began to come to my home every Tuesday afternoon after school, and she began to disciple me. We had a 10-week program. We had a little blue book that we went through. I think that this discipleship program was definitely the one thing that changed my life. Salvation changed my life, but that discipleship, the 10 weeks of discipleship with Christie is what helped me to stay the course, which was what helped me to get really, really grounded and really to get a lot of those early questions answered right away in the right way.

So we had this formal discipleship book that we would go through. This book basically taught you to read a chapter of the Bible every single day. It taught you that you should pray every single day. Then it also had some basic doctrinal introduction about what happens after you get saved, what’s the next steps that you should take. I remember Christie coming over. Our discipleship program was probably supposed to last about 45 minutes. She was usually there about 90 minutes, if not longer, because I would just have question after question. I would just say, “Look. I was reading this in my Bible, and I had this question.” I remember there was sometimes questions she couldn’t answer that she’s like, “I don’t know, but I’m going to find out, and I’m going to come back. I’ll get back to you.”

I remember what Christie taught me was that every single time we have a question, it’s good to ask those questions. It’s good to make sure those answers come from the Bible, and that to find out what a Bible verse means, you shouldn’t just take one Bible verse and think, “Oh. Well, the Bible says this in this one verse. Therefore, we’re going to build a whole philosophy or life teaching around that.” No. She taught me that we should compare scripture with scripture. If it’s really a doctrine of God, then it’s going to be taught various times throughout the scriptures. So that was just a huge, huge, huge help in my life.

I remember that on about 28 days, almost 28 days… Maybe it was a little bit, a few bit more because we didn’t start the discipleship program like on day one of my Salvation. So maybe I was saved maybe five weeks or six weeks. But when I got to read Matthew 28, where it tells you to go out and tell everybody about… When the Bible says, “Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them these things which I commanded you,” well you know, if you listened to my Episode number 1, you might know by now or you will know after I say this, I pretty much take things pretty literally.

So I remember as I was sitting there in my house after school, reading Matthew 28, and it says, “You need to go and tell people,” I thought, “Wow.” I closed my Bible, and I thought, “Well, who can I go and tell? Where is there a lot of people?” I thought, “Well, there’s a lot of people at the mall.” So I grabbed my things, and I went to… I was 15 years old, didn’t have a car yet. So I went down to the bus stop, and I got on a bus. I went to the mall where there was people. As I was wandering around this mall by myself, I’m thinking, “Okay. Now I’m here. I have my Bible in one hand, and I’m supposed to tell people about Jesus. What do I do now?”

So I began to think, “Well…” I remember that before I got saved, people would just walk up to me and say, “You know, God loves you.” Why don’t I just do that? I may not be able to tell them everything else, but I know what God did for me. So that’s what I did. I walked around, and I told a few people, “God loves you,” started a few conversations with some people, and then I headed home. That was just… I just remember that distinctly. That was something that, you know… The Bible says we should go and do this, so let’s just do it. So I did that. Then a few weeks after that, I remember I was in church. I remember the pastor all the time saying, “John 3:16. John 3:16.” So I went up to Christie, and I asked her, “What is this John 3:16 that everybody is always talking about?” So she showed me where John 3:16 was in the Bible, the famous Bible verse, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. Whosoever believe in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Then I remember another time in the Sunday School class, I actually invited my sister to come to church with me. I was so excited that she was there in church with me for the very first time. I remember that the youth pastor said, “Okay. Open up your Bibles to John Chapter 15.” I was like, “Okay. I’m going to show my sister how much I know the Bible.” So I found what I thought was John, but it was actually a book of First John.

So I opened up the book of First John, which is right before Revelations, and I’m looking for John Chapter 15, and there’s no John Chapter 15. It’s just not there. The pastor is reading from the scriptures. I’m flipping to the front, looking at the index, flipping to the back. If you’re talking about God saved me, he saved someone that did not know anything about the Bible. I did not know what John 3:16 was. I did not know that there was a First John and that there was a book of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When God saved me, he saved someone that did not know anything about the Bible.

I know I need a lot of… Today, as a missionary, when people look at me, and they look at my family, and they look at my husband, they look at what we’re doing, a lot of times people assume that my dad was a pastor. They say, “Oh, yeah. You grew up… Your dad’s a pastor. Right?” I’m like, “No. My dad’s not a pastor.” Or they’ll say to me, “Oh. You grew up in a Christian home. Right?” Nope. I didn’t grow up in a Christian home. I was one of the lost, of the lost people and had absolutely no Bible education, no Bible knowledge when I got saved.

I remember after that too, when I got saved, Alex, he began to do Bible studies on our high school campus during lunch. This was huge, huge, huge, had a huge impact on my life. It was amazing to have a group of 15, 20, 30, 40 people there. There was a couple of them that would play guitars during and before. We would have a little time of worship there. Then Alex would teach us things. I remember so much some of the things that Alex challenged us to do there.

One of the things that he said was don’t miss this huge opportunity that we have, and that we will never have a greater opportunity to have access to such a large number of people to witness to as we do right now, right then in high school. He challenged us to not waste that opportunity. He challenged us that, “Don’t graduate from high school and wish that you would have done more.” I remember that had a huge, huge impact in my life.

I also remember that Alex teaching us there there that most Christians, after they get saved, they only last about three years, and then they stop going to church, or they stop going to church within the first three years. So I thought, “Well, I don’t want to be a statistic. I don’t want to be someone that quits in the first three years. This is huge. I feel happy. I feel joyful, and I know it’s going to be hard in the next couple of years, but I don’t want to be a statistic.”

So I remember making a decision that I was going to stay in the church for three years and one day. Then after that, if I wanted to quit, I would quit. God works differently in everybody’s life, and that’s just how God worked in my life, to give me a challenge, to give me a goal to say, “Okay. I need to last this long. Later on, we’ll make another decision, but I need to have at least that goal.” That’s how God worked in my life.

I remember that Alex also taught us about… He talked to us about sharing the truth with other people and sharing about Salvation. There’s a lot of times people would think, “Oh. Well, I don’t know much about the Bible.” So as we studied the book of Acts, Alex began to share with us how the early Apostles simply shared what God had done in their life. They didn’t even have a complete Bible to study from. They were writing the Bible. Paul wrote the Bible, but most of the epistles in the New Testament. So what the Apostles did, if you study some of their speeches that they gave in the book of Acts, all they’re talking about is, “Look. This is what happened to me.” They’re giving their personal testimonies of Salvation.

That’s what I began to do. I thought, “Well, I don’t know a lot of Bible. I don’t know a lot of doctrine. I’m reading the Bible every single day like they taught me to, but I don’t know a lot of stuff. But I know what God did for me. I know that something’s different. I know that I have joy where I didn’t have joy before. I know that I have peace where I didn’t have peace before. I know that this empty whole in my heart that’s gone is gone, and it’s now filled with the Holy Spirit.” That’s what I began to do.

So at high school, I made a good friend. Her name was Hannah. Hannah is actually a missionary in Germany right now. But God led us on different paths, but you know, both of us had a passion for ministry, for service, and for seeing people saved. Well, Hannah, she really took me under her wing. I am so thankful for the friendship that she gave to me. She helped answer a lot of my questions. She befriended me. What we used to do was every single day, Hannah and I would meet for lunch.

So Alex would come maybe once a week to do the Bible study on campus. Then what Hannah and I would do is every single day, we would meet. She would have her guitar, and we might… Sometimes, we would have a worship service where we invited the other teens and the Christian teens to get together. We would all sing and sing hymns, and get a group of kids, of 30, 40, 50 kids in the school campus all singing. Then what we would do on the other days when we didn’t do that is we would walk around, and wherever there would be a little group of three, four, five students, we would have tracks, which are little brochures that have Bible verses on them that teach people how they too can be saved. We would walk up to groups of people, and we would give out the tracks. We would try to start a conversation with them to try to invite them to church. Frequently, this is in high school. There was always somebody that wanted to debate with us. More specifically, they wanted to debate with me.

So frequently, probably two or three times a week… So we had Alex once a week. We had a worship time with Hannah playing her guitar and all of us singing. Then we had another going around and witnessing to kids. Then maybe once or twice a week, we ended up having large groups of kids, maybe 10 to 30 kids. Usually it would start with one person. Usually there would be a Jehovah’s Witness or a Mormon or a Pentecostal that believed that you could lose your Salvation, and they would want to argue with me.

So we would walk up to a group of kids. We would give them tracks and invite them to church, start to talk to them. Then they would want to argue with me about Salvation. I didn’t know much, but I knew I was saved. I knew that God is love, and I knew I couldn’t lose my Salvation. I knew that something was completely different. We would start to have a discussion, and pretty soon the other kids would be like, “What’s going on?” Other kids would come around and listen. Usually I would be arguing or discussing.

I remember that one of the other things that Alex taught us was don’t argue about these minor things. People will always try to bring you back and to argue about Noah’s Arc or argue if a flood was possible or argue about creation. He taught us don’t get involved in these discussions. Just bring it back to Salvation, because what these people really need is they really need to just get saved. That’s what I would do. No matter what they were arguing about, I would just bring it back to Salvation. I would bring it back to that we’re all sinners, that for our sins we deserve to go to hell, that Jesus Christ died for all of our sins, and that the only way to go to Heaven is by trusting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior.

I would show them verses like Jesus, when he said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me.” So when they would come to me, and they would say, “Well, what about this other religion?” I’d say, “Well, no. Jesus said, ‘I am the way.’ There is no other way. He is the only way.” So just using Bible verses to show them no, and just focused and bringing it back to Salvation, and had huge opportunities there throughout that whole school to witness to people. We, Hannah and I, and from that, all the time in church at Calvary Chapel Vista, I was bringing people to church. Everywhere I went, I was leaving tracks and inviting people. It was just a time of huge spiritual growth in my life, those first six months. When I got saved, I got saved. God saved me from that. I think that the huge thing for me was before I got saved, I was empty. My heart was empty. Something was missing. I could never feel joy or peace or happiness. After I got saved, all of that changed. God filled that empty hole in my heart. That’s what we’re doing here on Baptist Mom with the Baptist Mom Show. I have different ideas about different episodes of what we can be covering during this show.

As I said in Episode number 1, our theme verse for the Baptist Mom Show is Galatians 5:22. It says, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,” but with the focus on joy. My goal here at Baptist Mom is to talk about things about how we can get that joy back into our life, how we can have that joy as a mom, how our teenagers can have joy, how our children can have joy, and how we can have joy in our churches. Because if we are truly abiding with Christ, if we truly have a relationship with Christ, then we are going to see the true fruit of the spirit in our lives. That’s my goal with Baptist Mom Show.

So thank you so much for tuning into Episode 2. Now, in Episode 3, I’m going to be talking a little bit about how God worked in my life to show me different things, to move me from the Calvary Chapel church, which I am so thankful for everything they taught me and everything, how God used them to bring me to him. But I’m going to show you what happened in my life and the things that God revealed to me through his scriptures, through the Bible, which brought me to the Baptist church. So I’m going to show you why I made that change, how that change happened. I’m going to show you the ways that God worked miraculously in my life to show me exactly what church he wanted me to go to. So I’m going to share all that in Episode 3. So I hope you join me in Episode 3 of the Baptist Mom Show. I will hope to see you then.

 

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